Fish dying, help please.

[davez104]

You can almost count on it :wink:

Thanks.
Dave

[fishtraderlau]

what weekend are we talking about dave- do you have a definate timing on it yet?

[here fishie fishie]

Sorry to interupt, but does anyone else think that the amount of water changed is on the heavy side, especially for Tangs? Just a theory?
Sounds like your water changes are consistent, but how consistent is the water out of the tap? Do you age your water first....?

Frenchy :D

[fishtraderlau]

G'day Frenchy,

Yeah, i emailed/pm'd Dave about that, saying that is quite a high water change. On julies...you are risking killing them and if not, a good change of splitting an established pair if you change any more than 25% of the water so with tangs especially everyone, you need to do mostly regular, small water changes.

You are on the money there Frenchy.

Our tap water up here in CQ tends to be fairly tops and regular, rarely ever an issue with inconsistant pH or stuff.

You can't beat a big bin or tub in a shed that you will up with water and continually aerate but not everyone has the space...if you can though, it is the best way to add new water into your tank and especially now in winter, aging water in a spare spot in your fishroom minimises issues with such cold water being added to tanks!

Cheers,

Andrew.

[davez104]

No date set for sure yet Andrew, will let you know for sure when we work it out. Just have to find the right house to rent at these ridiculous prices :)  

Thanks frenchy, I'll cut back on the water changes a bit from now on, 25-30% weekly. I don't have anywhere to age water at the moment so I'm afraid its straight out of the tap, with a double dose of dechlorinator and into the tank.

Thanks.
Dave.

[gc]

I dont think a double dose of dechlorinator is a good idea.

[here fishie fishie]

I just use a big black drum & an airstone, bit of safe/prime everynow & then.
An old powerhead with leftover canister pipping connectted... to pump water into tanks.
As for double doses, well some declorinators don't have what they are tested to, as in how many parts chlorine/chloramines it removes. So double dose might on just cut it??? Each shire/state...whatever, all have their own recipe for treating water, how big a load of chemicals...

Frenchy :D

[davez104]

I know not all dechlorinators are the same, but one I used to use, I think it was the wardleys one, said that if chlorine was a over a certain concentration, to double the dose. I tested the chlorine content straight from the tap and it was well over the figure stated so I have been using double strength since then. What possible problems could be encountered from using too high a dose? Maybe I need to look at setting up some kind of storage for water change water. Water changed would be getting close to 1000L a week now, with more tanks on the way, so would need a pretty big drum 8)  Will look into it.

Thanks.
Dave.

[here fishie fishie]

Yep big drum indeed. 8O Bit different to my 150lt drum. The joys of only having a few 4 footers & couple of 2 footers. :roll: Drum may get filled twice in a week if I am keen, usually just once.

That was my point about dechlorinators, I know some parts of aussie have high concentrations at the tap. :x {closet emoticon I could get to eewww}

Frenchy :D

[fishtraderlau]

dave...i have a spare water filter here, 5um filter in the 2nd canister is fantastic...over Easter believe it or not, the 4 days away at carnarvon. i left the hose running in the duboisi tank all weekend....my goodness. came home, had flooded the shed but didn;t lose a single tropheus, can you believe that!!!!! proof enough for me that the filters do the job!

[trofius]

DAve 1000l is a lot hey, the lawn loves it but !

I dont have a tub to age that much water in either and also do a strait from the hose job. in winter i limit it to 30% water changes, so as not to have a huge temperature difference, but all the tanks are kept a bit colder aswell ~26.

for my tropheus i dump 30-40 % weekly
the fry, leptos, xenos etc get 50 %
neolamprologus/angels  get 40-50% fortnightly
amaricans get 50-70% weekly, they are dirty buggers..
bristlenoses  get 50-70% every 2-4 weeks depending on fry

The better dechlorinaters have their dasoage ability on the side

water ager acn i think is 1ml treats 40l tank water 3mg chlorine
water ager CN 1ml treats 70l tank water  @ 5mg

Prime 1ml treats 40l tank water @0.6mg/l ammonia, 3mg/lchloramine, and 4mg/l chlorine but is not that cheap


apparently the carbon cainister thing works a treat thats next on the fish room improvements.... not sure if i will be able to convince the wife that a 1200l water drum will fit in the aundry.. :wink:

[Anakist]

You know the guys to get a hold of when you are moving!

Sorry to hear about the fish! Hope all the rest are well!

James

EDIT: We have a 4500l water tank now. Yay!