Ok Hi All
Just wanted to know the difference between 6 and 7 bar frontosa and how much in price they change being 6 or 7bar thankyou.
hi 6 bars are usually $15.00 and 7 bars are usually $40.00 thats for a 4cm fish.
Ok thanks for that.
no probs :wink:
[quote:83a830e69d]as for Burundi not worth much in South Australia now they are paying $60 wholesale i feel QLD is the cheapest by far and i dont agree with it[/quote:83a830e69d]
Are they real Burundi? :? as most 6 bars here in Aussie are cross breeds. 8O
In the good old days 6 bar fronnies were imported in as 6 bars fronnies.
Now they realise there are different varients. :roll: So if anyone has Burundis for sale, ask them to prove it. :idea:
Frenchy :D
yeh frenchy as with most fish of now days are supose to be of a certain rock/point/island who really knows of where there fish are from .bring back the old days when there was only one name for a fish not six.
cheers scott
And what has all this got do with the price of eggs.. 8O
Theo
PS: So do we get a birth certificate and genetic chart with any fish we buy from a shop. What about 7 bars, one bloke on here was selling some with 7 bars on one side and six on the other. :roll:
Thats what this post needed for a bit of life...the "THEO TOUCH" :lol: :lol:
I agree, the post was started by jj and was answered accurately by groks END OF STORY...
Thx for the info everyone was sort of helpful lol so what cross breeds to make frontosas 6 bar.
6 bars and 7 bars are different fish :wink:
[quote:ba7cd68d26]In the good old days 6 bar fronnies were imported in as 6 bars fronnies.[/quote:ba7cd68d26]
And in the good ole days fronnies were only collected from one spot :roll:
oooo i can see a biffo over fish happening :D i agree with david, end of story
Sorry i had no idea lol.
i love fronnies :D picking up my two kigomas tomorrow 8)
[quote:fd1f5c435f="jjfish"]Thx for the info everyone was sort of helpful lol so what cross breeds to make frontosas 6 bar.[/quote:fd1f5c435f]
you have to be kidding nothing cross breeds to make 6 bars
you have to have quailty 6 bars to make good 6 bar fry simple
as for that other crap about most being crossbreeds what the hell with you have to be kidding aswell.
plus even importing fish you dont get a birth certificate and genetic chart with any fish full stop.
somtimes i wonder just what people are thinking about when they post crap on here.
to answer the question you pay for what you get Quality 6 bars $20/4cm and Quality 7 bars (Kigoma's) not crossed lol $45/4cm
god help us if this is what people think already and Frontosa's are only just on the import list now .
i bet we see Moba's or Kapampa or Mpimbwe or Kitumba just to name a few mixed with Burundi's then you will see some crossed fry now is that fair to the buyers? i dont think so
atleast now 95% of the 6 bars in the country are Burundi
Ok sorry
I had no idea thanks for the info :wink: .
Was just saying what I have been told by some experienced cichlid keepers. :?
:idea: Maybe don't believe everything you here. :lol:
If Zaire Blues "Moba" come in, I'll go for some of them. Hard to breed in tanks though. :?
Frenchy :D
[quote:6196437513="here fishie fishie"]If Zaire Blues "Moba" come in, I'll go for some of them. Hard to breed in tanks though. :?
Frenchy :D[/quote:6196437513]
you need to do some research more because the Frontosa sites i am a member of they are all breeding there fish and there names i had never heard of little own seen before.
and 99% of there fish are wild caught Adults it can be done
I did do some research thanks,
[quote:23c5df5aad]When the Congo was Zaire, a fervor broke out when the Zaire Blue Frontosa was discovered. The Zaire blue is the bluest of the blues, some would even say purple. The stripe on the head runs between the eyes and down the gill plate. There seems to be two of the blue types. One has blue dots on the inteorbital stripe and the other does not. Then it seems that there are degrees of one to the other. Some don't seem blue as others (This can be influenced by a dark or black substrate and a dark background). Some in a group can be solid blue, while others are not. There may be a range where these fish are found and there is some color variation along the range. We have seen this in some Tropheus variants. Or there are some actual locations. No one can be really sure because these locations seem to be shrouded in some secrecy. One thing that all Zaire blue's have in common, they won't hold their eggs well. If someone is telling you that they are breeding Zaire blues with much regularity, buyer beware! I can rattle off a dozen breeders who have or have had the fish and it is always the same story; the females lose the eggs. These are wild fish, too. No one is really sure why it happens. Maybe it's because they are the best looking and the Frontosa god has played a joke on us. Some have guessed that it is the infertility of the males as these fish are found in very deep water. Could they have been decompressed too fast and the males have damaged reproductive organs? Aquarist Lee McLeod, told me he was having problems with his wild colony holding eggs. He decided to try a little informal experiment. He took a good breeding six stripe female and put her into the Zaire colony. The result: she held the first time with a healthy spawn. It was not the male's fault at all. Is it something about the wild females? Is it something we are not supplying that the fish needs? I have been raising a small group of tank raised fish for almost four years. I can't wait to see if this problem resolves itself with the tank-raised fry. Oh, by the way, there is supposed to be a regular Burundi looking type Frontosa that comes out of Zaire, too.[/quote:23c5df5aad]By Eric Glab
& the variant I am after is "Moba" it is meant to be the bluest/purple of the lot, problem is they get these from 50 metres plus down. Pretty rare
Frenchy :D
yeh i agree Eric is good
but try this link and knock yourself out and now you will see what real Frontosa's are out there in the world instead of just 2 or 3 types
http://www.cyphos.com/
very good read and guys breeding all type's all the time
mate i dun think theres a single [u:201474269f]serious[/u:201474269f] tang breeder out there who doesnt know how many different varients of Cyphotilapia spp. are out there.... and i have read the sites and journals from which i think kiwi got his sources, and there are a few, many by some of the worlds top fish breeders.... i am inclined to think that some of wat has been said on that site you linked isnt correct because of what i have read in these articles.... and really, how would they know that the type they have IS the type its sposed to be, and that they are indeed wild caught??? unless they caught the fish themselves from the lake who really knows if they are the type they are sposed to be????
my 2 bob's worth....
This was the site I was thinking of earlier, finally found it :roll:
referenced by African Diving Ltd
http://www.e-aquariumthai.com/Customer/Aquarium/aquariumthai.nsf/(NewsList)/13C7D1A7855B35CA47256DFF00349E66?OpenDocument
Frenchy :D