Well I would just like to thank the guys and girls on here
Over the last few months I have picked up some great fish
I have all my favourite fish and I can tell you I have expensive taste lol
But I got all of them at one quarter of what you would get them in the shops most even cheaper
And for the guys having a mud sling in the trader you can get fronties for $25 each over 8 cms and gess what they look like a pair to me lol
So thanks again and keep up the good work
I would just like to add the fish I got were from people that were selling out or down sizing
So the price was right for them I had a long time to look over these fish and I thought they looked pritty good for what they were
And for the people that have spoken to me in chat
My wayward daughter has shown up at her big sisters place a little worse for ware but safe
Thats a big call.
I have personally seen the FISH in question and although I am not a fronnie man myself I actually considered buying them they were so nice.
Don't judge prices for fish with out first having an idea about the quality.
Sure, I can get yellows for $2.00 each at 7-8cm but they look that bad that you would only use them for feeders. :lol:
People pay good money for quality fish. I have seen this time and again.
I saw the comedy in the reply to the offer. I guess the person who made the offer didn't.
Ppl should learn to take things with a grain of salt, or maybe a humour patch could be installed on the computer of everyone on the forum. Would makle life a lot easier on here.
If you have any doubt about how I view the majority of ppl on this forum just read my signature.
Learn
That's the thing with communicating on the net, you dont see the other guys face, if they're being humourous or being a smartass you can't tell. I guess it pays to assume the former and if it's the latter then the fault is with the other guy.
Id have to agree and disagree,
I still think alot of the 6 bars, especially the colonys are overpriced now with new imports. Lets face it, alot more variety to spend your $$ on and get a fish that when they breed will fetch a high price.
And I have seen some pretty nice kigoma for sale at 8+cm for $50.
But in saying all that i havent seen the pair in the thread your talking about, they could be really great, still with them becoming more and more common the people who are going to be buying them arnt going to know the difference 9/10.
someone,
When I came onto the forum 2 years ago, Frontosa Colonies were selling between $800 and $1500.
Now they are selling somewhere in the vicinity of $400-$500 and less, I cant see how thats overpriced.
Considering it takes around 3 years or more to get a Colony going properly, I think someone buying breeders at an average of $100 per fish is doing pretty well.
The market determines the price of all goods, including fish, and seeing I had 3 offers of $230 plus for the pair, I think it goes without saying that the price was right.
I've spent over half my life in sales, and there is a right way and a wrong way to make an offer, offering half the asking price is not the right way.
If anyone thinks making an offer for half the asking price is fine, then when you put your house on the market for $200,000 and someone offers you $100,000, I'll ask you how you feel, I'm sure you will agree its not the done thing.
From time to time fish come onto the forum at a very good price, usually because the seller hasn't got time to fool around and wants the fish gone for one reason or another. People look at these prices and then think that everyone should sell them at that low price which is highly unreasonable.
There is nothing wrong with offering people a lower price, especially when buying in quantity, just remember you're going to be a seller one day, so treat the other person with respect and you'll find that you come out on top every time and with a good price.
Theo
Well opinions on fish prices are like... well you know.
But I did notice there where alot of colonies and adult fish for sale over the last few months, Dont know if that directly related to the new imports, but like you said the market will dictate, They may continue to drop, or still stay high.
But i think everyone has to lossen up abit, there is a huge difference between 100k and $100, and a business and hobby. Ages 8-80 on here, I would hate to think some young person with $100 would get a barreling just for trying there luck. :roll:
That "Young Person" had a pretty sharp tongue, considering my measured response to his offer.
Theo
I wasnt saying he was young, just being general, nothing personal, just think everyone could do with being alittle more diplomatic.
I guess to be fair, when someone ask for offer, the buyer have the right to offer whatever amount they feel right to them whether or not it is a good offer or silly offer. And when a seller asking for offer, please be prepare to get a silly offer too as everyone is after a bargain.
But I also like to point out that many people like to reply a post withour first reading the post probably. When u see a near offer, I guess u don't offer a half price.
But anyway, offer is still an offer. If a buyer is not happy with the price offer. They can always said " No, Thanks".
Cheers :wink:
well said thomas i agree wholeheartedly :wink:
hi guys
some times i offer 25% of the asking price.
the seller may say no way but thats there right.
we have offers every day some are ok some are just stupid no good geting upset just say no thanks..
they are not saying your fish are shit and i only will pay this for them.
they are only saying if you get stuck and have to sell them you know i will pay this much for them...
ps..sometimes i get them fish at 25% of asking price....
regards kev
I agree too Thomas, and all throught this thing, I have had a bit of a laugh, even my initial response was said in jest, with just a hint of a bit of a dig.
Unfortunately some people cant take a bit of a ribbing, and the whole thing blew up because of that.
I believe I kept cool throught the whole thing and never once felt upset.
One thing I do know, is that you'll never get anywhere making ridiculous offers. All you're doing is giving somebody else a better chance of getting whatever it is you are after.
Theo
I have to admit, it was one of the best lines I have heard all year.
Thanks for the laugh Theo.
Kevin I hate to break the news, [b:c891442310]but[/b:c891442310].
They [b:c891442310]are [/b:c891442310]telling you your fish are shit and will only pay this much for them. :twisted:
Where are those rolling heads when you want them.
Theo
theo
i guest so they must be..
i still dont know why we sell so may 8)
kev
Hey Kev, with all that money you're making, go and buy yourself a keyboard with capitals on it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :P .
Theo
why
Because then you would be able to spell "Why" propley.
Theo
Theo Kev did SPELL why right it just may not have been punctually correct. Maybe you need to learn to spell PROPERLY!! hehehe
Darn I thought that it [b:8f7977a2c6]was[/b:8f7977a2c6] spelt correctly.
Thats straight out of the "TankBuster Guide to the English Language" two.
Oh well, I'll go and stand in the corner.
Theo
Damn, didnt really want to get into this thread.... Especially since
its focus has changed from the original post, which (i think. Lol!) was
about how much $$ to offer for fish. 8O
Just have to say - Has anyone noticed the downhill slide of the english
language in forums? Spelling and grammer have gone down the drain, not sure why. Is it because there is no spell check? Is it because we now
rely to much on spell check when we do any other work, or is it just
because we are getting lazy?
Maybe the education system is letting us all down (is this a fair enough excuse for the younger ones amongst us??).
Oh well, off my soap box. Just interested in everyones thoughts on the matter. :roll:
Cheers
Steve
I blame SMS Steve, nothing worse than typing a paragraph on a numeric keypad.
Unfortunately Steve there is some bad news for you and your generation.
According to the latest studies, the younger generation is becoming, for want of a better word, dummer.
There are a lot of theories around as to the cause of the problem, but Universities seem to have narrowed it down to 3 main causes.
1, As the younger generation started to become somewhat mentally deficient, Educators started to come up with new ideas to try and stimulate students with new programmes of learning. Unfortunately over the last few years it is becoming very evident that these programmes were totally useless, as the brain capacity of students started to diminish at an alarming rate.
2, It has also been said that pollutants in the atmosphere have played a great part in the damaging of the brain capacity of mainly the young. Heavy metals, Lead and the depletion of the Ozone Layer are all playing a part in the so called Moronization of the young.
3, Another factor that seems to be gaining some credence, is the relatively new idea, that we are running out of Good Gene Material. In other words we are interbreeding at an alarming rate. This is evident in various trials that have been done over the last few years by a Professor D Head from the University of Illinois (Yes the same illustrious University where a Dr J Pattel gained his degree). According to D Head, sorry I mean, Professor D Head, we are dangerously close to reversing evolution, and could, theoretically one day be swinging from the trees again.
A study has been done recently in SE Queensland, on a young fish enthusiast that goes under the Nom De Plume of "Tankbuster" no relation to the one on the "Other Forum". The damage that has been done to the brain of this poor individual has left him completely incoherent, and within 2 years could end up like a Jellyfish.
Sorry the news is not all that good Steve, but don't despair, apparently Scientists are of the opinion, that staring at a tank full of fish can reverse some of the effects of the 21st Century.
Theo
PS. All names have been changed to protect the innocent
Nice one Theo. Im a bit worried about "my generation" though, is
that because I have to tolerate the stupid younger ones amongst us??
To quote a famous song - "only the stupid people are breeding..."
Hmmm. Somehow that rings so true with intellectuals spending their
time on careers rather than the upbringing of children. :(
All I can say to all the smart ones amongst us - go forth and multiply, do it
for the planet!! :lol:
Steve
Yeah, I blame computers and high paying IT careers for taking the "geeks" out of the gene pool.... For instance, my mate was the dux of my year, but he hasnt got the time for ladies because he has too much study and work to do!!!!! What sane man has that sort of attitude???!!! 8O
Also, with that spelling and grammar comment, I blame msn messenger. It's so much easier on there to type u instead of you!!!! And yeah, sms also plays a strong part.
As to the original topic and the thread in question concerning a certain old farts fronny's (sorry, didnt want to name names :D ) I think I was the one who ignited the fuse. I guess alcohol does make me cocky :lol:
Have fun at the super auction all, Matt
Some one said that they saw the fish in question?
Where do you think I got them from?
As for the english in here i went to school all the way to grad 11
And i still can't spell
Its not that the kids are getting dummer its the teachers not having the time to see who is missing out and they just don't give a rats ass!
Besides all you need these days is a laptop and a calculator
So fight on kids I hate the peace lmao :lol: