Recycled water

[waahoo]

[quote:3c30e78cf1]wouldn't it make sense ? Normal gos to all "drinking outlets" recycled goes to landuary, shower, toliet etc?[/quote:3c30e78cf1]

mitch

have you thought of the immense cost of ripping up the road everywhere for "this Extra Line" and also redoing every single houses plumbing?.


Bring on the recycled stuff

i drink a cup of my own every morning.

I think its a great idea, gold coast is going for desalination, state government just put another 80 million into the project. and it is expensive compared to other options, but its fast and isnt an always on solution, what i mean by this is the hinze dam is at 95%+ on average lately, which means the desal unit would be shutdown.

Only kicking in and costing when its needed.

Also remember that with this treated water going back into the dam, it will be about 0.05% of the total dam water, so thats about what you will be drinking of it, its not going straight into the pipes. sun and bacteria in the dam will also break down alot.

but your right about the gold coast getting the better option, dubai runs completely on desal, but its also bloody rich, as is the gold coast city council with high rates and large amounts of money being spent here = more gst for the state government.

[Tabbycat]

I am all for recycled water. Desalination for one does not take all the salt out so the water will have a funny tast. It will cost way to much and will come to late. It will use more power so in turn that will use more water  :? . Then the salt that is taken from the water will be pumped back out into the bay. It will make the water twice as salty so that will kill off the fish stop the wales comming in close for people to see and the dolphins will all move out.  I dont think it would be worth losing an amazing eco system just cause some people cant stand the thought of drinking recycled water.  :!:

[Paulibius]

Not realy what you guys are talking about. But can we as fish keepers recycle our water any way efeectively and cost efficiently instead of dumping down the drain. I run afew tanks and would like to recycle my waste water if its possible.

Cheers Paul.

[here fishie fishie]

Salt put back into the ocean will increase the salintiy preventing whales :!:  :?:  :!:  Where did you read that from :?: Last time I checked the ocean is huge open area of huge volume & the water currents are strong.
I prefer drinking water from fish poo, rather than our own. It is known that not all diseases can be removed from recycling water. How much of a risk is it really :?:
As for the water having a funny taste, well it stinks/does now. Ask anyone from a cleaner water source, eg;me from Christchurch, NZ. When I came here it took me ages to drink water out of the tap, well I still don't. When I had my first few showers here I thought I was in a swimming pool because of the smell of chlorine. :x As time has past I got used to the smell.

As for treated water going back into the dam being only 0.05%, may be correct, but if this drought keeps on going the way it is, who knows what it could end up being.

Paul as for your fish tank water, I throw mine on the garden, it is great for plants.

Frenchy :D

[gasnitro]

my thoughs are it should be made mandatory to have a rain water tank and every house waste water [shower/washing machine] should be able to water that property. then all the toilet waste should be pump inland after being treated to make our centre  more viable.

[cosmotiger1]

[quote:723378836c]When I had my first few showers here I thought I was in a swimming pool because of the smell of chlorine[/quote:723378836c]

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You actually shower??? and still smell like that???

[dammwoman]

Sadly I can't see any choice but to recycle water.
When all boiled down it makes sense and those people with a real mind set against drinking POO water should go out and buy themselves a rainwater tank.
A few of the Shire Councils are now refunding 100% of the cost to install them and if maintained properly the drinking water is great.
Bio Cycle septic systems are another good water saving investment and I am of the opinion that they should also be heavily subsidised by the council's as these produce very clean water as an end product of all your household water, not of drinking quality but certainly excellent for all outside water applications.
Really I'm saying people have to start to make a few responsible decisions for themselves too. I can't think of 1 proposal put forward by the governing bodies, be it dams, increasing capacities of existing dams, recycling, ect ect that hasn't created an uproar with the people it will affect.
Short of figuring out how to make it rain in the areas that need it, when they need it what are they to do to keep everyone happy.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers Linda

[Savage_roo]

well for 1 the goverment knew this was going to happen 20years ago

But they did nothing about it. Thay just wanted to build high risers
And stuff an many people in to one place as thay could.

So now the population is growing faster than they expected
This is what happends
I will not drink poo water unless they can put in a back up in case somthing goes wrong
Like in Sydney a few years back where thier drinking water was not fit to drink because of a bug in there water supply
And the aussie attaude that* she will be all right* needs a good long look at
And if they used the poo water for industry it would take a lot of strain off house hold use
Well thats my 2cents

Andrew

[dammwoman]

Yes they should have done more years ago.
They should have not backed  down to the public outcry in the past with proposed dam sites 10 -12 years ago. I know of 3 that were proposed and nearly built but stopped by public pressure and I guess theres probably more.
I know its not nice to loose your land and homes to these proposals but in the end someone has to.

Would we be suffering this shortage now if 1 or 2 of those dams proposed 10 -12 years ago had gone ahead. The situation wouldn't be nearly as bad.

Cheers Linda

[Thanes]

One of those dams that was proposed was going to take 50% of my dads land,which he didn't mind too much,but it would of made his property unaccessable & the gov said tough.This pissed him off so he's glad it didn't go thru.

Also from what I've heard about desal is that 90% of the water that goes in is waste water at the end.So pumping the waste back into the sea a great idea,but what happens after 100yrs of that,you have bays of uninhabitable water.(no marine life).The only way to go is recycle & rain water tanks.

As for local coucils when I built this house we were going to get a 2 tank sceptic so we could use the grey water for gardens, the council said then changed its mind & said 1 tank system must be installed at twice the price of the other & we can't use the grey water.

So in short recycled water & rain tank water is the only way to go.Desal will wreck the marine ecology in the affected areas in the long term.& don't trust the councils or gov cause they will balls it up no matter what advice they get.
Just my $2 worth.
Cheers Brian.

[braddo]

My mother lives on the edge of the proposed mary river dam the problem is there is that it don't hold water and in most places it will only be 2 inches deep. The other one that I have looked at is there are a lot of cattle properties where the dam is going so what about all the cattle dips all I can say is I'm glad that if it goes through that brissy will drink the water and not us. But seriously I am against the mary river dam for those reasons plus the lungfish and cod populations there. As long as we had 100% gaurentee that the water was safe I would drink the recycled water as for desalination the middle east countries doing it now have never had a problem with destroying marine life so I don't see that as an excuse. after all they have been using longer than a decade with no environmental impacts.

[Flikkitty11]

i think recycled water is a good idea and so is desalination.

wouldn't it be wonderfull if the government used their brains and said "ok we don't have enough water. lets use all the possible solutions together to provide more water"
since that will probably never happen the community should probably take whatever they can get.
beggars can't be choosers and choosers will be beggars . if that makes sense
if we don't do something australians are the beggars of the future.

[b:c752c3a387]water tanks[/b:c752c3a387]
my grandpa has seven on his property in goomeri (near gympie) but he still has to drink town water sometimes cause it has been so dry. water tanks help but arn't always a great solution.

anyways that was my thoughts on water
Flik

[dammwoman]

Problems always arise many years later.
I grew up on a beef cattle stud and my great grandparents had been pioneers into the area. They had a huge amount of land and went in clearing trees as fast as they possibly could. The only thing that they saw was a vast improvement in the properties with increased grass coverage for their cattle and they continued on and became very wealthy people. No ill effects from rising salinity and erosion even started for 60 or more years so no one could have convinced them that cutting down every tree in sight was a bad thing, in fact I doubt that anyone (back then) had any idea of the future consequences.
What happens to our oceans if all drought affected countries suddenly start desal. to subsidize the short fall of water.
How much longer can we continue to pump sewerage waste out into the ocean without it eventually having affect.
Councils have some stupid out of date ideas and need to look more to the future.
Yes people whose land is resumed deserve to be paid well and treated fairly because they are loosing their homes and I do feel for them.

I was thinking mainly of 1 that was proposed close to our home near Jimboomba about 12 years ago, but the protests stopped it.
There was also a series of dams planned, again about 12 years ago in the mountains behind where we live now. These are pegged out and everything and only a hand full of privately owned land was to be affected but it was the Greenies that protested until that proposal was canned as well.
Unfortunately people are never going to agree on the remedies to the water shortage until a bit more openminded thought is used.
Cheers Linda

[mjscookie]

Hi.

I was reading that 20-30yrs ago, the government (possibly federal) was issuing fines for people who did not remove water tanks as they were NOT AESETICALLY PLEASING !!!

Mitch