Do you want white spot with that?

[here fishie fishie]

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>Positive first, good to see alot of good quality healthy fish on the Gold Coast,  <
>Popped into a store on the goldie yesterday(non sponsor) that is infested with white spot.  <
>They were selling fish with whitespot on them. :">  Sure they won''t be able to sell these to the more experienced but to the novice who might not know any better.  <
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>Frenchy  "A house full of people is a house full of different points of view"<
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[ashhhh]

I know the one your talking about,its a shame, what goes around comes around, I lost all my africans a while back due to one
istlenose being infected from ''that shop'' and it will hit them even harder in there hip pocket when they find all there stock floating.No matter how cheap there fish I''ll never spend a cent there ever again.Karma works in mysterious ways.<
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>Ash<
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is this the one big one just off the motorway near macdonalds your talking about??<
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>yeah some poor lacky got shafted while i was there  Wales for the grand slam....then the world cup

[ashhhh]

Im not going to say which store it was, especially over a PUBLIC forum,its not the right thing to do, <
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>Ash  

Im sus on any store that uses a sump conected to all their ''lower pH'' fish tanks. Then you know if one fish has whitespot, theres gonna be parasites in every single tank. <
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>I say ''lower pH'' because ive never seen any african tanks with whitespot, its useually the tetras or something. Could be a coincidence

There''s no excuse for getting white spot in your tanks if you plopped the new fish straight in there without at least quarantining them, I''ve worked in commercial piggeries and poultry farms and that is a HUGE no no, we didn''t even allow sales reps to step past the front office, keep the germs away from your main stock and there''s no problems, a spare 2 footer isn''t too much to set up for this. You blamed this particular LFS yet it was YOU who placed the disease in your own tank! think about it.<
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>Cheers Dave "I believe that sex is a beautiful thing between two people. Between five, it''s fantastic."

[cosmotiger1]

thats a bit shortsighted isnt it woopiman??<
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>Quote:Sure they won''t be able to sell these to the more experienced but to the novice who might not know any better. <
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>not everyone is as knowledgeable as others<
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>look how justin says  "NOVICE".<
>its behaviour like this (selling fish with parasites) that will make new people hate the hobby straight away.<
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>cheers 1 out of 4 people have a mental dissability!<
>think of your 3 best mates if there fine..... IT MUST BE YOU!!!

I don''t agree with what the LFS is doing, but, same applies to any livestock, you learn about their husbandry needs before you go and fill up a tank with stock, .. unless you want them to all die!<
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>Cheers Dave "I believe that sex is a beautiful thing between two people. Between five, it''s fantastic."

[ashhhh]

attn woopiman, if u were aiming that post at me read on,      if not, read on anyway: <
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>If you noticed I did state "a while back" , I should have gone into greater detail.WHEN I FIRST STARTED OUT KEEPING FISH.<
>Yes we are all novices at sometime but all we can do is learn from our mistakes.<
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>I did not directly blame this LFS either, but stated I would never spend a cent in that shop again.<
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>Fair comment:  "theres no excuse to get whitespot in your tanks",  but there is also no excuse for a LFS selling whitespot infested fish whether they are aware of it or not.You dont buy a pet dog from a pet store with heartworm, they are allways wormed, vaccinated and health checked before selling.It shouldnt be any different with aquarium fish.<
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I dont think thats fair at all, even if you are an experienced fishkeeper. I dont have the room, powerpoints, or money for a quarantine tank. I have to take a risk everytime i buy a fish.<
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>Just gotta try choose a healthy one, and make sure you dont get their water in your tank.  

[Director12]

I''m looking at getting some fish from 1 or 2 of the sponsers here.  I''m a noob but I''m also assuming any of these guys should be fine with regards to crook fish?  :-)<
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You say you can''t afford 1 extra very handy to have 2 footer?, ok, where do you place your sick fish? Just out of curiousity if you have 1 does your dog have a kennel? My point was (and not aimed at anyone for the paranoid ones out there) that you simply have the correct set up to suit the needed or required pet, the onus is on YOU to ensure the livestock you are buying is healthy, we CANNOT assume that the LPS owner is or has done the correct thing, novice or not it is still up to YOU to learn just a little about your purchase before you actually purchase them, .... now where did my horse wander off to? .... damn thing, no one told me I needed a fenced in yard to keep it in, oooops, there goes Granny May''s rose bed, silly me, novice horse owner here now who shall I blame for my f*ck up??<
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>Cheers Dave<
> "I believe that sex is a beautiful thing between two people. Between five, it''s fantastic."

QUOTE:- You dont buy a pet dog from a pet store with heartworm, they are allways wormed, vaccinated and health checked before selling.It shouldnt be any different with aquarium fish.<
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>I know many PS''s that have the same theory as your pre-mentioned "white spot phantom of the night " operator.<
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>I could imagine the profit margin on a pup<
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>Pup Cost= $100<
>Vet checks, worming, micro chipping, heart worm = $200<
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>Ongoing feed bill for  a few weeks providing it sells + litter + staff wages to feed attend and clean them= $50<
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>Anyone want to buy a $500  cattle dog with no papers for eg?<
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>Try running a LPS and ideas may change, been there done that.<
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>Cheers Dave<
> "I believe that sex is a beautiful thing between two people. Between five, it''s fantastic." Edited by: woopiman at: 20/6/05 18:44<
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[cosmotiger1]

dave,<
>this started as a post about a certain shop knowingly selling a fish carrying a deadly parasite. I dont see how it got onto the subject of every fish owner having to know the signs of everyfish disease there is. because thats pretty much what you are saying.<
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>     I can imagine if i tried to sell a quarantine tank to someone who just wants a bowl for 2 goldfish. they would laugh their way out of my shop.<
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>cheers 1 out of 4 people have a mental dissability!<
>think of your 3 best mates if there fine..... IT MUST BE YOU!!!

I hear what you''re saying and yes I  agree the point has been made, and No not every pet is disease checked prior to leaving the shop, simple solution, don''t shop where the reputation is bad, too easy, enjoy the hobby all and check those potential sick fish before u take them home and ALWAYS quarrentine them before u infect all your other expensive hard earnt well looked after fish at home<
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>Cheers Dave "I believe that sex is a beautiful thing between two people. Between five, it''s fantastic."