Albino BN Market changed???

[dammwoman]

Kev, Kev, Kev,
do yourself a favour.
Think about that last post and delete it before too many people see it.
 :idea:  :idea:  :idea:  :!:
Cheers Linda.

[red]

i did not say you could not make money of fish at $2.00 per fish or more i have been doing that for along time now and think it ok, justed replyed to this subject thanking someone for standing up for the little guy knowing that it would not help, then having people saying thing's that are not needed anyway  if this is what end's up happing i just won't bother anymore.

ps: i don't thing age has anything to do with it i my self are 49 year's and counting.
so i will now not bother with this forum anymore farewell too all.

red

[aquariumwarehouse]

mmmmmmm   no

i had a call from a qcf member thats a lawyer and said tread lightly...

i am not the one saying that someone should change there price  8O



i sell my  fish  for  i like  :oops:


sometimes  expencive  :roll:


but  most of the time  cheap

and will be cheaper  from now on....


regards kev

[braddo]

I didn't say age had anything to do with it I was just stating how long I've been around the game. As for leaving the forum that is your choice it would be a shame to see someone leave.
As for things not neede being said that is what a forum is about to put everyones point across and think about what everyone has said.
Oh and by the way I am one of the little guys the amount of times I have been burned buying expensive rare fish only to find that somone flooded the market a week later because they held back their fry and hit the market place all at once, is uncountable. Mate we have all been there.

[Thanes]

Alrighty you can't have sarcasim on this forum.There are 2 sides to every story lfs trying to keep prices down & cover overheads & breeder trying to sell fry & do better than break even.So for me breeders either breed a consistently good selling fish & sell in bulk at smaller prices as Braddo said, or be flexible & try & breed fish & sell fry before market price drops & when it does move on to the next species.It's just depends on what you want to do as breeders , you can have the safer money in selling bulk or try & do the juggle & predict what the next big seller is going to be  b4 the buyers know their going to buy them.( if you can do this get out of fish & buy shares , you'll be a millionare.).Or only sell privately on a smaller scale.There is always the other option of opening your own lfs as kev & others have done.
 There are some options there are undoubtally more out there so pick whats right for you.
Cheers Brian.

[mjscookie]

I'm only used to seeing stuff like this happen on the "other" forum.

[aquariumwarehouse]

you too

lungy will be  proud  8O


kev

I think its good, dont get emotional, just having a discussion with different points of view. No need to leave.

More talk, less trader.

Thats what this forum needs.

[aquariumwarehouse]

this is the best thread for 6 months :lol:

reminds me of the good old  white crane days were the  threads went on for weeks :cry:  :cry:

kev

[mjscookie]

Hi Kev.

Just wondering what the prices on your albinos are?

I went to the "Harbour Town" shop today. They didn't have a price on the tank. Was to scared to ask in case someone thought I was having a go....

Didn't see any O/S or peps... :wink:

[casperbgk]

hi everyone
is it just me or do other peple think its rediculous asking a shop to RAISE their prices? i mean, i understand its hard for the little people to make a living here but hey, TOUGH LUCK, thats buisness. and what about the even littler people, the hobbyists. idont have a heap of money to spend but i love my fish so the cheaper the better.
good on ya Kev, luv the prices, what about the peps now :P

[here fishie fishie]

I started to read this post, late last night then fell asleep. Thought I was tired, but when I started to read this post again this arvo same thing happened.  :wink: So I am only replying to the dribble on the first page. Yep couldn't even get past first page.

Good on Kev for offering cheap prices, breeders have been supplying to lfs for years at lets say (a) price, then selling them privately themselves for (a) price if not cheaper. What a bunch of di ck he ads. Not very smart now is it :idea:
Then these same people support  & cheer places who only sell dry goods. Not exactly looking after the industry now are we people :?:  :idea:  :lol:

As soon as a shop jumps on a bargain, all the girls come out & have a  :cry:  :roll: What a  joke.  :lol: Heres 50cents.  :lol: I thought this was Aussie not England :?:
Tropheus can be bought for $2 overseas, give or take.  :idea: Go hard Kev  :lol:

Hobbyists hmmm, funny word that. :lol: what does it mean :?:  :idea:

(Just read/skimmed the rest of the post. I should go away more often... thanks for the laugh people) :lol:

Frenchy :D

[firemouthkid]

Here's a couple of different perspectives.

For those who don't seem to mind that kev is flogging albino b/n and soon tropheus off at low prices, indicates that those people are not currently breeding these themselves therefore has no impact on them.
But what if a breeder was spending a lot of time,  money and effort into breeding say some QUALITY fronnys or tangs or whatever, only to find that kev has a super special on fronnys or tangs for $ 2 each next weekend ?
They'd be dirty alright...... because all of a sudden it affects them.
Not only do they lose money on their juveniles, but the breeding adults are then just about worthless as well.

I realise retail outlets always use a "lost leader" item to get the customers thru the door and then make some decent money on food or accessories or whatever.
Maybe an astute customer should just buy the lost leader item and that would be it.

What if say.....  an outlet down the road was selling say..... HBH food for not much above cost.
I bet kev would be on the hooter to that supplier to have a whinge, because it would affect his sales , asking why the hell is he selling the product that cheap for?.

I don't see much difference between the two scenario's.

So before my son and i expand our "hobby" into a small business, I'm still trying to figure out this industry....... wish me luck  8O

regards darren

[braddo]

Ah I do breed albino bn's if you are planning on expanding into a small business with fish breeding than you better realise not everything that is expensive when you buy it will be expensive when you sell the young.

The way I hear it is albino bn's a common as hens crap on the gold coast so why pay higher prices for something that is common. I also know for a fact that any shop that has a quarentine room can import tropheus for betwwen $1-$2 depending on species so don't blame kev for the tropheus factor.

We are here fighting amongst our selves over fish prices when we should be looking at what the prices are off the asians. I mean we can't compete unless we mass produce these fish so unless you got the room don't breed them.(i know albino bn's can't be imported but they have proven to be prolific breeders for those that has them)

If you want a good example look at the praecox rainbows they were $250 a pair when they first come out now they are lucky to get $3 for em so guys welcome to the industry.

[dammwoman]

No body is arguing that the price was never going to fall. It does on everything that will breed FACT. No one expects the money they outlaid.
Almost everything we own paid top dollar for then it was new and happy to let the price fall away but what we seem to miss is that he crashed the price out by $10 a fish overnight. Okay its now worth $2 and thats where they'd have ended up anyway somewhere down the track but people have been caught out and not by the natural progressive drop in price. If someone was sitting on 1000 babies they have lost at least $5000. Thats the point some of you don't seem to see.
Peacocks are also cheap in Asia.
What if Kev decides to make them a $2. retail fish next week.  What will that do for you and your plans.
Cheers Linda