Albino BN Market changed???

[Sammy]

So when is the next sale kev? Also what store?

Hey this wasnt started as an advertisement for kev, i might have to remove them just to keep to the topic.

[dammwoman]

Gentlemen I too have enjoyed this discussion but not had a lot of time tonight.
I do however want to publicly say that it seems Red was offended because he thought I called him a Clown Sucker!
The Clown sucker post was ment to be a smart ass answer to Kev's question on what to make next Saturdays special and in no way directed at Red. Sorry Red if it caused offence.
I am direct and to the point in my opinions but don't stoop to name calling.
Night guys
Linda

[here fishie fishie]

[quote:3e97b8dd16]i notice on your wish list is white calvus , gold faced comps etc.
what if you finally grab a few breeders and pay good money for them.
by the time you raise a few to sell - the public can buy them at kevs for $4 each....
not having a personal dig mate - just trying to explain it another way.[/quote:3e97b8dd16]
{Yes I know this wasn't directed at me, explaining the point of view from me.}
There already a few people breeding white calvus already, I happen to be one of them.
If Kev gets them cheap, good for him. I wont be a cry baby about it. I got into this particular hobby, because my mate had cichlids. I thought how cool, where these fish from, look at that one cashing the others.... Got into it from there.
Breeding fish is cool to watch(parental bond...), a challenge at times & sometimes lucky.... 8)
I got White calvus because I like the fish, not the money. I been pretty lazy with them too, if I saw it at dollar value,(like some) what is 8 batches worth of fry worth? (Adam, I only don't really need to know:lol:)
I have saved 2 batches of them, finally pulled my finger out  :lol:
Now this is depending on the market.....I will supply these to a lfs at a good price (2 sorry), both of them for helping me out. Called scratching backs. :wink:
All you lot crying about the money, well stiff sh&t. If u want money, well that, then makes it a business. Like the majority of small business, you took a wrong option, "oh dear how sad never mind" Then again, because of Kev, people may stop breeding them, price may inflate again & your back on a winner. (I did that with Salvini's, then again I kept them because I liked them  :idea: ) I could of got Albinos ages ago too, but I am not a cattie fan, & also I thought the price will drop quick smart, as did others who turned them down.) Gee if a kiwi can figure that out  :roll:

My concern is with Asian stock, the quality on some species can be varied. Look at some of the discus for a start, but thats another story. Speaking of Kiwis, err I mean pot stirers, how about u start another topic Glen? :lol:

ps;[quote:3e97b8dd16]breeders have been supplying to lfs for years at lets say (a) price, then selling them privately themselves for (a) price if not cheaper.[/quote:3e97b8dd16]Wonders why no one has argued that point? Then again truth hurt :wink:

Frenchy :D

[braddo]

Shite don't tell me fronties are the next super special :P
There goes my colony 8O
Hehehe couldn't help myself
All this thinking has been givin me a headache.

[Savage_roo]

Ok if these fish r so cheep
Where are mine every 1 seams to have some but me :?
So I'm not happy Jan lmao

[Alan Caboolture]

The old hands will recognise the marketing ploy for what it is. :D

It is nothing new in the aquarium game.  Haig Rd Aqu and Aqualand were infamous for their 10 cent specials in the sixties and seventies.

Inferior undersize product, sold at a loss, advertised as "Super Specials".  Then quote that as a bench mark to force prices down on subsequent purchases.

Quality, good size albino B N are still pulling 3 to 4 times Kev's shop price.

I seem to remember 1.5 cm TL peppermints for around the $20 mark a couple of years ago.

That product line didn't last beyond the "Super Sale" stage.

[Alan Caboolture]

Clever hobby aquarists will realize that Bristle nose (normals, albinos, longfin, BGA's ) are not on the import list.  There is no competition from overseas.

Good size, quality Bristle nose have maintained their value for the past 35 years all over Australia.

Little flurries with undersize, inferior fish, are not going to upset the general Australia wide market.

[dammwoman]

Some people clearly don't have to sense to see the difference between a 2cm fish and a 6cm one though.

I have taken a particular dislike to this because the weekend before Kevs special a good Retail customer of mine who has been for a long time rang me to see if I had any Albinos left here.
She had a lady customer who wanted 2 and as she had none left told her she might be able to get a couple in for her to which this woman agreed.
I looked around and found 2 which were in a large pond and well grown for their age and told her I'd drop them in for her. These fish were 6 -7 cm and as fat as fools.
I've taken a few special order fish in to her and instead of the usual shop markup she only adds a couple of dollars on to the special order stuff as she know it will be picked up quickly.
The woman turned up on the Saturday and was very happy with them until told they would be $15ea.
This woman turned on the retailer and screamed that she had seen them advertised for $3.50 at another shop and that she was a bloody rip off and wouldn't be coming back in here.
The shop was full of people who all heard the rantings and I doubt that any of you would agree that she deserved this abuse.
Doesn't affect me.
She paid me what I had asked for them.
And yes this customer is ignorant and the shop may be better off without her but I still find it anoying.
Cheers Linda

[aquariumwarehouse]

hi

my albinos bn were 4cm plus  ask  the buyers of them....


my 400 peppermints arrived  today  and to my  supprise  there  all 4  to 5 cm


so  lets  see  what  will i  sell  them  for  mmmmm  :evil:  :evil:



let  the  games  begin  8O  8O  :evil:

sorry and  my  frontoza  came ut  of  q room  today  to.....


kev

[braddo]

100% in agreement with you Linda. I mean $15 bucks each aint bad for a 6-7cm albino bn.

[dammwoman]

I'll get in before you all and say that Kev did state conditions to the special and obviously this woman didn't bother to read them and that is most definately not Kevs fault.
Shes clearly not the sharpest person around and all shops get their share of these customers but my customer was hurt by it and isn't on the internet so didn't have a clue what this woman was even on about.
Cheers Linda

[here fishie fishie]

The joys of retail Linda, can't keep everyone happy. Funny to watch customers sometimes, will they buy the bigger one at a better value, or buy the little cheap one. There u go, I just told you how I see it. Others just want the cheapest, "it will grow" If your "friend" stayed polite, then I'd say the other customers would of seen that lady as a fool.

[quote:97e58d1389]The old hands will recognise the marketing ploy for what it is.[/quote:97e58d1389]
 & they will also recognise sour grapes by someone who obviously paid to much for theres too. {thats my view, cant speak for others that be rude} What Kev has done,{IMO} is what everyone does, in all industries & have been doing for years.
Greed is one of the impulses used in sales.

Where I work, we grow alot of our own stock, we also import some goods direct from Asia, so we too can run the "odd" special. Its to get people in the door. :wink:
Yep the humble old bristlenose still stays around the same. Customer demand has done that. Majority of fish keepers have a bn, either to eat algae, bn are tough, the mouth looks cool on the glass, they get along well with others....

Albino bn breeders, take a deep breath, now count to 10.... Just do as you were doing, why :?: the majority of Joes wouldn't know about the specials anyway.  :idea: S.E Qld has a few other lfs I believe. :?:  

Then again  :lol: Kev could have a steady supply, at a great price, word will get around... :roll:  :lol:

Frenchy :D

[sUme]

wow this albino talk has really 'ruffled a few scales', i can't see Kev doing anything wrong with crashing the market (you should blame the breeder more then Kev's business).

I can understand your pain if your holding onto 100+ babies and can only get $2 when 2 months ago could of got $5+. But the reality is are you in it for hobby or a business... if its the first and you feel 'stung' and have come here to bitch and dis* Kev maybe you should check the ATO website as to what consitutes as a business, and perhaps should reconsider not 'putting all your eggs in the one basket'.

At the end of the day business is business, source your fish at the best price and sell either cheaply or 'market price'. But obviously with 1000+ fish Kev has its easier to turn over the 1000 at below market prices, in shorter period of time (and did i mention less risk!!!)

---stock pick of the week is CUY ---

 :lol:

[aquariumwarehouse]

why should i check the ATO webpage ????


kev